Episode 96

The New Human

In this episode, Dr. Kevin Preston shares his journey from athlete to retreat leader, reflecting on how injuries, intuition, and a deep connection with nature guided his path. He explores the body’s symptoms as messages, the power of slowing down, and the hidden medicine within our fears. We also dive into his vision for “The New Human” retreats and the importance of presence, trust, and moving with more grace through life’s challenges.

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About the Guest:

Kevin Preston, Doctor Traditional Chinese Medicine, has been helping patients heal root causes of chronic illness since 2009 by integrating TCM, quantum physics, and biological medicine. Known for his unconventional approach and expertise in recognizing hidden patterns in health and behavior, Dr. Preston works with leaders, entrepreneurs, and groups through private sessions, programs, speaking, and retreats, guiding them toward vitality, clarity, and authentic expression.


About the Host:

Rev. DeeAnne ‘Rose Hope’ Riendeau  B.Msc, HADM, PIDP, NLP is a thought leader in spiritual and business development whose mission is to elevate how we think and live. Experiencing a life of chronic illness, and 2 near death experiences, DeeAnne rebounded with 20 years of health education and a diverse health career.


She is known as the modern day Willy Wonka for giving away her company Your Holistic Earth, which is the first holistic health care system of its kind.  She is currently the owner of Rose Hope International, in which she helps those who are seeking more joy, love, freedom, and a deeper meaning in life using your souls library also known as the Akashic Records. 


She has spoken at Harvard University, appeared on Shaw TV, Global Television, and CTV and has been recognized as a visionary and business leader having been nominated for numerous awards including Alberta Business of Distinction. Along with being an entrepreneur, DeeAnne is a mom of 2 bright kids, publisher, popular speaker and international bestselling author who uses her heart and her head to guide others to create their best life. 


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Transcript
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Rev. Rose Hope: This is when Spirit calls and you on your

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journey, are in the right place. This show is about magic,

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miracles and meaning shared through stories, interviews and

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channeled messages. We have so much to share about who you are

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and your divine mission here on the earth, let's get to it when

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Spirit calls is right now.

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On today's show, we have Doctor Kevin Preston, drawing from his

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experience in effective clinical practice since 2009 fusing

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traditional Chinese medicine, quantum physics and biological

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medicine. Doctor Preston has worked together with 1000s of

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patients to help heal the root cause of their symptoms. He's

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become known for unconventional ideas on health and medicine and

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resolving complex chronic illness, mystery syndromes and

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more, employing his expertise in pattern recognition of

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behaviors, thoughts and physical body expression. Dr Preston

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works with patients to uncover the hidden or unseen elements of

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life that are holding them back. This data can be used to guide

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individuals toward their fullest and most authentic expression

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with clarity, focus and vitality. Dr Preston works

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privately with high impact leaders, groups and

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entrepreneurs to illuminate key areas of their lives that need

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to shift alongside their health and businesses. He is passionate

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about igniting the fire within everyone he works with through

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online group programs, public speaking, hosting large in

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person events and leading powerful adventure retreats, you

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are in for a treat, folks.

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Welcome back, everybody. I know you're so excited for another

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edition of When Spirit calls and we are back. And I am extra,

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extra excited about our guest today. I had the privilege of

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meeting this beautiful human Dr, Kevin Preston, just a couple

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weeks ago in person, and you know, we just actually finished

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a conversation talking about how, you know, we can be

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catalysts for each other without even realizing it, and what we

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activate in one another, sometimes we don't even know

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what we've done the ripple impact that we have. So welcome.

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Dr, Kevin,

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Dr. Kevin Preston: Thank you. Thanks for your excitement. I'm

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excited to be here too, and it's like we can just, you know,

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carry on from the last conversation, because I had you

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on my podcast. And you know, thanks for being a guest there

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too, and excited for more.

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Rev. Rose Hope: Me too. You know, one of the things that you

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know comes up for me quite often in doing these podcasts, is this

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incredible ability that we have to bond and to connect through

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story. And I often will tell people, storytelling is a form

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of medicine, not just for the receiver, but for the deliverer.

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And so I'd like to invoke some of your medicine today and have

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you share a bit about your story and when spirit called you,

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because I know that you listen to the voice to the call, and

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that takes a great deal of courage, as we know, but I'd

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love to hear kind of what was it that started that shift for you,

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or were you just always this incredible?

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Dr. Kevin Preston: Right? Gonna get red faced here. I've been

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asked a number of times over the years, just from an intuitive

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standpoint, because I've been a Chinese medicine practitioner

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for 16 plus years now, and in a lot of those visits over time,

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and I'm sure you found this in a lot of your work with people

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too, that when you spend time focused on something, you do

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start to develop more skill sets there, and you lay down new

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neural networks in your brain and your intuition, and you

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suddenly start to be able to tap into more information in a

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bigger field of energy. And so when people have asked me that,

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like, Have you always been this way? And sometimes I ask, like,

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What do you mean, which way? Like, is this a good question?

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Not a good question, but yeah, I would say, years ago, I would

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say, No, I haven't been this is something that's unfolded later

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on, and maybe I'm a bit of a late bloomer, but then I've had

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other realizations where I think back to earlier phases of life

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and like, oh, wait a minute, there was insights. There was

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some of the catalysts early on. And so I was really drawn to

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nature, and I spent a lot of time in the forest. I had, you

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know, four of us as siblings, and so we're outside playing

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together all the time, and you know, the river and the creek

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and collecting rocks and building forts and things. I

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also have a lot of memories of spending time alone in the

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forest. And now that I know a lot more about myself. I was

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naturally doing that because I needed it, because I would be

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feeling like so much energy and emotion, and I would need to

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discharge that and offload that, and integrate it in some way.

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And so it's interesting how the nature of each of us organically

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may pull us into the environments and the spaces that

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we need that we don't even conscious. Just say, No, we need

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and so, you know, there's different memories that come up.

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But I vividly remember, I think I was 16, and I was playing

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fairly high level hockey, and, you know, growing up in Alberta,

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and you drive all over the place, all over the province,

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and in the winter and in the snow and the cold. And I know

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you know that really well. And I had my driver's license, so I

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started driving myself to my games and practices quite a bit.

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And you know, my parents would still drive me at times, but I

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was heading out, and I think there was a decent Blizzard

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going on, and that never fazed me. I was fine driving in the

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snow and the colds, and I felt good about it. And there was

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many times I had driven in much worse conditions. But something

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was different about that particular evening. I still

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can't even tell you what it was, but I got my truck, I had my

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gear, and I loved hockey, like I lived for and I wanted to go.

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And I started driving down the driveway, and I started to get

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an uneasy feeling. And I got to the end of the driveway before I

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pulled out on the road, and there was this aspect of, nope,

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I'm not going. And they sat there and idled for four or five

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minutes, kind of battling with this. But I want to go. This is

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hockey like this is something I love, and I am important to be

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there and the team, and I think it might have been captain on

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the team at that time, and kind of this inward pull, and I'm

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looking at the snow and thinking, the conditions are not

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bad, like I've driven in way worse. You know how the mind

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tries to justify and ultimately, I ended up putting the gear

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shift in reverse, and it backed down the driveway, and I parked,

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and I went back in, took my gear, and my parents said, Hey,

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like, what are you doing? Like, aren't you going to hockey? And

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I said, No, I'm not going. And I don't remember much conversation

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after that. I think I just went downstairs to my room and just

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hung out. And I'll never really know why I didn't go, but I know

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I wasn't supposed to, and I think that was one of the

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earlier memories that I like consciously remember hearing

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that feeling that being a bit confused by it, but I trusted

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that. And then, you know, ever after that, there were other

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experiences that I started to learn how to cultivate that

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trust. And of course, there was many moments I felt a call,

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didn't listen to it, got a sweet lesson or a challenging one.

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And, you know, brings us back to ourselves. Of Oh, right, we do

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have information and knowledge that maybe is not always

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consciously forms that comes from the field of energy around

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us, or from spirit however. You know, somebody thinks about

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that, but I've had a lot of moments like that. And it is

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some cases where I don't go do something, and then there's lots

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of cases where I get the call to do something, yeah, and then I'm

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doing my best to listen to that.

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Rev. Rose Hope: I really love this story, because the fact

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that you were 16 and you were able to listen to that, I think,

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is huge, you know. And I think about different times in my

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life, too, in my childhood, in my teens as well, where it's

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like I felt something, but it didn't make sense up here, you

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know, in my head, it's like, well, no, that doesn't make any

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sense. Why would I not do the thing, and then I would do the

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thing, and then, you're right, there would be some sort of

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consequence to that, you know, experience. So, you know, I

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think that a lot of people would love to listen more, but

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struggle to do that. And so as you kind of got into your 20s,

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you know, what were some of the things that you were doing then

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that allowed you to listen into that like, I would assume that,

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you know, you were called to go into traditional Chinese

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medicine, and you felt that pull. But I'm curious to know,

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kind of like, what else led you into that pathway?

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Dr. Kevin Preston: I think when I look back at the lens, you

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know, from current day, it was trusting those little, you know,

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people talk about it, the little breadcrumbs are the omens. And,

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you know, The Alchemist is one of my favorite books. And it's

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like, trust the, of course, it's such a good book, trust the

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omens. And I could also see, back then, I wasn't necessarily

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aware in the way that I am now, but I was still trusting those

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breadcrumbs or the feeling that I would get. I'm a big feeling

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person, and then experiences and how life kind of guides us.

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Because Chinese medicine was not something that was on my radar

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early in life at all. And I ended up having treatment with

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acupuncture at a clinic I was working at as a student, because

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I thought about going into different forms of medicine,

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sports medicine, physio, you know, I played hockey, I played

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college hockey, I played junior hockey. I had a lot of injuries,

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so I was around great practitioners a lot of the time

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getting stitches or rehabilitating some injury, and

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end up having knee surgery at 15 and again at 20. And, you know,

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all kind of hockey related, and I think it was through a lot of

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treatment and experiences of having injuries, of cultivating

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a deeper connection with my body. And I ultimately believe

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now it was sort of the disconnect and destiny that was

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leading to some of those injuries that I could kind of

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put together more later on looking back of Oh, no wonder

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that happened, and it also was illuminating my path and led me.

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Get acupuncture treatment. I remember getting acupuncture,

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and it worked really well. And I was confused by that. I didn't

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really know a lot about it, but I felt the results. I saw the

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results. It was so tangible. And I think maybe the curiosity, I

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have a curious mind, and I love understanding things. I love

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learning and knowledge. And so I started reading books about

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Chinese medicine, just to see. And it was one of those things

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that, as things unfolded, I started to feel that curiosity

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grow and that pull more. And I remember reading a book and

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everything just kind of hit me, you know, as that moment, maybe

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spirit or otherwise. And it was talking about how conventional

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medicine views the body, and how Chinese medicine views the body.

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And if you had, let's say, 10 patients that you were seeing

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that all had migraines, typically they would get the

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same medication, or some version of that same medication for pain

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from a conventional viewpoint, whereas in Chinese medicine, you

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would be asking all the different questions about their

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life, about the rest of their body, their symptoms, the

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history, injuries, concussions, maybe other issues, anemia and

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all of these other things, hydration, diet, and you would

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really get into what I view as like the full Garden of Life.

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And Chinese medicine views the body as a garden. And you would

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always do individualized treatment. There's no way that

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you would treat each of these people the same, even though

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they have a similar presentation, because you want

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to find out why. So you might be treating a 300 pound linebacker

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who's had 10 concussions. The treatment you'd administer to

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somebody with that kind of history would be very different

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than like a 85 year old woman who's 95 pounds suffering with

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like anemia or poor diet, or all those different things, it'd be

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completely different reason for the presentation, and that's

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what we get into in Chinese medicine. And I think like that

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really, it really made sense to me, like it landed in my body of

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it just seems so practical. Like, of course, you would try

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and find the reason underneath the symptom. The symptom is just

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information. And that sparked something in me deeper to

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eventually. I definitely remember feeling that that leap

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of, I'm going to shift direction from kind of a conventional

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medicine direction to Chinese medicine without really knowing

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a lot about it. I didn't actually know, really know the

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depth of what I was getting into, but I did it, and I

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thought, well, let's try, and then just see and yeah, like, 20

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years later, I'm like, Oh, that was a cool leap.

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Rev. Rose Hope: You know, I love these leaps, because I've done

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so many of them in my life. And when I leap, I find such

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exhilaration, first of all, but I find that those leaps pay back

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in spades. Do you know what I mean? Like when I first started

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diving into the spiritual work? You know, I took the Akashic

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records because I was a skeptic. I took it because I had been

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taught mainstream medicine, so I had a very logical, practical

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way of looking at things. I thought, There's no way people

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can do this stuff. There's no way. And I took it, and I was

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like, What is this? You know, it opened up a whole new world. And

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I love that you were willing to just know the feeling you had

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when you were doing the bit of research you were and having

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that curiosity that you like, let that feeling guide you.

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Because I think that's again, where a lot of us, we miss that,

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you know, we're going so fast all the time that we're missing

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the listening, right? You know, spirit's always calling. We're

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not always listening, you know. And so it's, it's so beautiful

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that that happened. I've got a question for you. Do you think

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that your injuries needed to happen for you to find this

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path?

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Dr. Kevin Preston: Yes, 100%

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Rev. Rose Hope: Thank you. And I want to kind of open this up a

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little bit, because recently I've had some clients that have

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had some injuries or had some illness and like, why is this

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happening? And they're so frustrated. And you know,

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there's this reminder that often I invite them to lean into is

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like reminding them there's some potency in what you're

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experiencing, that there's some medicine here in the experience.

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And I think about I've had a few injuries myself, and I had

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actually a very serious bike accident in 2021 a cycling

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accident, and I remember having some precognition. I actually

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saw myself getting in an accident. And I was like, No,

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that's not gonna happen. I'm careful. I'm on, you know, not

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on the highway trails. I'm fine. And so this one particular

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morning, I'm rushing around, and my house was in renovation, so I

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couldn't find my helmet. I thought, I'll just throw in a

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baseball cap. No big deal. I'm staying on, like, the bike the

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paths, you know, it's not big deal. And as I'm biking along

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this path, there's a fence and a skid steer, or a bobcat, comes

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out blind onto the bike path from the fence, and so all of a

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sudden, there's a bucket in front of me, a skid steer bucket

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right in front of me, and I am swerving to try and miss it. It,

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but I don't miss it. I hit the bucket. I get catapulted 10 feet

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onto the pavement. Wow. What's really cool about this story is

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that as I'm heading towards the pavement, the last thing I

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remember is actually seeing the pavement. And I thought, This is

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it? Like I had that thought in my head, like, this is it. And

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I've had many of those as you know, have had some near death

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kind of experiences in my life, and somehow I rotated, so I

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broke my humerus, ha, ha, universe, very funny, and I

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bruised my kidney. I was black and blue my whole left side. And

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obviously an ambulance came and I was transported the hospital,

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and I had blood in my urine, so they had to monitor the kidney

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all the things. So it was quite serious, but I didn't have any

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major head concussion. And so what's fascinating is the guy

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that was driving the skid series, like, I don't know how

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you turned, like, how did you rotate? Because he saw me going

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headfivement. And as I reflected back on that, I remember feeling

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like something was turning me. I can't even explain it. It's like

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an angel came and went. I'm just going to rotate it just a little

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so you don't smash your head and you get your shoulder instead.

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But the point of the story is not any of that. The point in

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the story is I needed that experience, and I had been

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asking God for a break, quote, unquote, I didn't mean

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literally, but I was going through a lot at that time.

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There's a lot of chaos. I was, you know, raising children as a

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single parent. I was doing renovations in my home. I all

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these things, growing a business, and so I was in this,

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like, really fast track, and that accident changed my whole

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trajectory, yeah, because I took a step back and I said, What am

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I doing here? Like I'm going so fast I can't even hear, I can't

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hear the messages of divine. I think I am, but I'm not really.

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And so that break, that incident, is what actually

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redirected me and moved me into also doing my degree in

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metaphysics, which opened up again, a whole nother world for

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me. So all to that question, do you think the injuries, you

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know, were there for a reason? Absolutely. So it's a reminder

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for us that even on the surface, when we say, Oh, that's a bad

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thing to happen, you know, whether it's an illness or an

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injury, you know, our perception is, oh, my God, is so bad. But

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what if we can shift our perspective of that and we can

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actually welcome that experience and say, Okay, there's something

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in here. For me, there's value in this. And it sounds to me

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like you figured that out a long time ago.

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Dr. Kevin Preston: Well, I would like to think that I'm still

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learning all the time, and like to show up with the student mind

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as much as I can of well, let's see. Let's see what this next

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layer has and certainly through challenges. I think this is the

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interesting thing about being human right, is that there's

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always an opportunity in everything. If we take a bigger

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view. We're looking at the long game and just seeing even out of

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curiosity, Why would something like this come up? And the

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amount of times I've heard stories like this from patients

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is really vast, and it is often when we need to slow down. There

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is something that will slow us down, unless we're listening to

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the nudges ahead of time. And there's definitely things I've

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been through where I wasn't and you know, whether physical

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injuries or mentally emotional challenges and stresses and big

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life changes. And then after some time passes, you start to

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see the wisdom and why things showed up in the way that they

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do, and seeing it as a redirect or an opportunity where needed,

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and also that we have to be quite specific with what we want

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to manifest, right? You needed a break for kids, yeah, like

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metaphorical or or literal, and sometimes it's both, and so

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listening to the whispers and listening to the nudges. But I

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think also there's a really key point here, and I've been

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sharing this with lots of people lately, and myself the reminder

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to slow down. And it doesn't mean not being productive. It

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doesn't mean not having an impact at all. And I think the

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Navy Seals have this saying, like, slow is smooth and smooth

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is fast. And I haven't really met many people, me, included,

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that can really listen at the depth that's possible when we're

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going too fast, like it's kind of a requirement to get into

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stillness, to slow down, at least in some ways, so that all

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of this information, intuition, guidance, can actually catch up

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with us. If you're ahead of it 100 miles an hour, you can't

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catch up with that. And this is actually where I see a lot of

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gaps in the physicality in people's bodies these days is

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they start having symptoms, they have autoimmune conditions, they

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have all kinds of different things going on, and usually

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that tells me, Oh, there's a gap somewhere. I wonder where that's

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coming from, gaps in their relationships, in their mission,

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in their career, often in their relationship with themselves.

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They're not slowing down or. Listening to, like, what is

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really inside here? What am I needing? What support might be

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needed, what direction and so, yeah, we gotta, like, just park

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ourselves for a moment and just, you know, take a breath and then

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see what is there.

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Rev. Rose Hope: Yeah, isn't that the truth? You know, I had a

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coach named Chris, and she would say, you got to slow down to

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move ahead, you know? And I was always this like, oh, going,

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going, going, you know. And even still, like, I still have this

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energy that's like, I get a little excited. Obviously, I'm

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very passionate, a little animated. But in this process of

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allowing myself to slow down, what happens for me, and I'm

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sure for you too, is that I make better decisions, more aligned

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decisions. So me going fast and trying to get all these things

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done. I was doing things that I didn't need to be doing. You

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know what I mean? I was like leaking energy. And so the

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slowdown allows us to hear the call more deeply, make better,

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more aligned decisions, which actually will expedite our

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growth and expedite, you know, whatever that experience is for

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us. So I'm with you. Slow down to move ahead. So here's what

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I'd like to kind of dive into, because I just finished talking

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to you about this before this call. You've got a really cool

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event coming up, and we'll talk about it a bit at the end. But I

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just kind of want to plant the seed with it, because you've

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been running this event new human for several years now, and

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I'm curious to know the story for that particular event,

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because I feel the energy of the event, this event, in a way that

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I've never felt an event before. And maybe that's a testament to

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you. Maybe there's a much grander, you know, aspect at

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hand. But I'm curious to know what led you to that. I used to

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put on big events. I had aim higher, be lifted, feel good,

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fest, awaken. And I do these conferences and these trade

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shows, and it's a huge amount of work, as you know, massive,

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massive undertaking. And so I'm curious to know what that call

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was for you, and what led you to that like and feeling like you

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got a download and someone said you will create an event called

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new human.

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Dr. Kevin Preston: That's not that far off, I guess. But you

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know, if we want to look at the logical side for the first part,

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perhaps, you know, working in the clinic for years and years,

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lots of experiences, one on one. I had always had a dream of

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doing retreats. And I started doing retreats back in 2019, and

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I probably led, I don't know, like, 30 retreats, something

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like that to date, outside of, like, the bigger events. And so

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I've done events in like Tofino. Cosmic surfing in Tofino is what

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it was called. Then a few of those, and Banff and, you know,

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these cool places, and out in caslo and the Kootenays here, we

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did a bunch of them with a dear friend of mine, and it was

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called collective hearts. And we did nine of those. And so, you

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know, all these different layers would come up. And eventually, I

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finally got started. Even though it was a dream. It had been a

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dream for over a decade. I felt like it just it needed the time

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that it did to cultivate the skills, the qualities within me,

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the embodiment within me, to actually lead something from a

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grounded place and from a more clear place. And then we always

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get to learn. So anybody out there hearing this, you don't

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have to heal all of your baggage, all of your stuff, to

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start doing something meaningful, and it'll be through

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the process of actually teaching, learning, guiding, or

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following your heart in that way that'll bring you even more. So

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I learned by doing. And so I started doing that, and then I

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started having this vision of doing a one day event years ago,

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and part of the intention that I was feeling was, oh, I want it

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to be accessible for people. I want people that are maybe new

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to this line of work, or new to intuition, spirituality, energy,

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Chinese medicine, all of those things, metaphysics, that they

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could have a very low investment in both time and money and

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something local here. I want us to do something here for the

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community and so many amazing people that have been so

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supportive to me and my practice and all the all the dreams and

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visions that I have. And so we did that, and it was a one day

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event, and I remember the night before, standing on the little

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stage that we had rented as kind of an outdoor like pole bar and

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beautiful venue. It worked out really, really well, and we had

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maybe just over 100 people there, and I could feel that the

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night before of Oh, I'm scared. I'm feeling intimidated. I'm

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looking at all the chairs set up with nobody in them. And there

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was definitely part of me that thought, Whose idea was this,

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this is not what we're doing. How did we end up here? And then

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thinking, I can't cancel now, there's 100 people coming

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tomorrow morning, and it was like nine at night, and I just

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had to kind of sit with that discomfort of doing something

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new, something I hadn't done before, not in that way. A lot

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of the other retreats were like two, three day retreats, five

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days, but with like six, eight people, 1015, people, maybe 18

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people, Max. So going to 100 plus different moving parts, it

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was. A leap. And so we did it, and it went well. And I just

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thought, well, let's test it out and see if I even like it. Maybe

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this is gonna be something that I don't wanna keep doing. But it

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opened something more. And so I did another one a few months

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later. And again, we had, I don't know, 120 people or

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something, and then the bigger vision of, what about a two day

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event? Or what about three days? Like, what would that be like?

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And I started seeing and feeling the people that I actually

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wanted to invite to come and speak, where it wouldn't just be

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me. And I had visions for some of the speakers that now I

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either have worked with or were about to work with at this one

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coming up in the fall here. And it's really interesting that I

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got shown those people, I got shown the vision, and I didn't

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know how was going to come along, but I didn't have a name

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for it yet. And that is the part that dropped in over time of,

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oh, if I'm doing this event, we're going to have to name it

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something. And at that point, I was thinking it would just be a

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one off event, you know, a couple days. Let's see what

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happens. And likely, I was walking in nature. I think

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that's the memory that drops in because there because that's

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usually where things drop in for me, just by myself, and the new

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human was what landed in. And to be honest, I didn't really love

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that name, like I had some I love it now, resistance, but

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there was some resistance that I'm like, I don't know that is

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that the one? And I had to sit with it for a couple weeks, and

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it didn't go away. And it actually dropped in more and

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more and more. And okay, I'm going to have to surrender to

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that. I guess that's what we're going to call it. And so we did.

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And so yeah, this fall, we've got the fourth version of the

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new human coming up. And you know, I don't even know where

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some of these ideas drop in from but sometimes when they do,

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because there's lots of ideas I don't take action on. But this

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one, I could feel, oh, I need to, without understanding all

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the the pieces of, yeah, logistics. And I guess we'll

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see. And I'm going to learn. I'm going to learn by doing that.

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Why don't we try? And then let's see. Because I could feel the

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depth and the resonance I wanted to come through for it, and it's

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been quite a journey so far.

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Rev. Rose Hope: Yeah, yeah. I bet you grow a lot in the

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process yourself. I know I did. Every time I would put on an

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event, it would be like, Okay, here I go, because I knew I was

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gonna have some sort of evolutionary experience in the

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process. Thank you for sharing that, and we'll circle back to

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that at the end, but I would love I know that you have so

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much wisdom, and you could give us like a million beautiful

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tools and pearls of wisdom, but I would love to hear from you,

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what are three of the biggest things that you wish you would

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have known when you were younger, or that you feel like

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is a main problem that your clients have to overcome, and

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what is it that you share with them to help them in this so

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called journey of life? So I'd love to just hear that from you.

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Dr. Kevin Preston: Well, let's see. Let's see what wants to

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come through. Yeah, I love it. I think the notion that our

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greatest woundings are our greatest blessings, actually and

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even in our vocation and our journey here. And you know,

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there's lots of teachings that support this too, but I didn't

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know it for myself. And I think that's been a big learning over

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many, many years of Oh yeah, the pain points, the places of

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struggle, are often hiding and will reveal your greatest

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talents and gifting, if you are willing to face into that. And

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so I think the second part of that I was quite a fearful

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person, and I did not have a lot of confidence. And there's

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people that I've met, and lots of people in my life now that

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don't know that version of me, because maybe I've only met them

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in the last five or 10 years, and they're like, Oh, it must be

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easy, or you're just kind of like this. And I chuckle and

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think, no, I am not just like this. The journey from who I was

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in the past and who I am now, and, you know, where I'm going

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in the future has been challenging varied, and I think

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about this with other, you know, guides or leaders, or anybody

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that wants to, you know, teach and feels that calling in their

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life, that you will face difficulties, you will face

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things, but you got to see the blessing in that, and that is

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actually there to cultivate something and somebody within

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you that is more strong, capable, grounded, integrated

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than whoever the previous versions are. So you said it

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like the the challenges and the difficulties that I've gone

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through since beginning the new human events have been quite

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vast. Actually, I don't, I don't want to sugarcoat that. There's

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been some big difficulties. I've lost friends. I've had big

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challenges with, you know, even staff at times or challenges

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with me, huge amount of self doubt at times, and that fear

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would come back. And so I would say fear can be your friend if

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you learn how to sit with it and to not get rid of it right away.

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I think there's a lot of things that you know are taught that we

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can bypass. And. Just stuff down or medicate or numb ourselves to

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but some of the fears, some of my biggest fears that I've had

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in this life so far, they have happened. You know, I went

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through different experiences in the past that, oh, I'm like, Oh,

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these, these are the things I was the most scared of, and then

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I was in it, and yeah, like, and what I realized through going

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through that was I needed some of that stuff, you know, I

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needed that to cultivate more of a spine, more of a backbone,

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more courage, to be able to stand in the fire of life,

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sometimes, to be able to actually burn away all of those

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things that didn't serve me anymore in programming, things

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that were limiting in my own belief structure, like things

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that were within me. And so I think a big key is the thing

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that you're most afraid of right now is holding the greatest

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amount of medicine in your life. And when we can turn and sit

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with that and face that, and you know, big fan of gene keys and

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Richard Rudd, it's like invite your fear in for tea and sit

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with it. Ooh, I love that. And let's see what it has to say.

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And what I realized was a lot of my fears were much greater in my

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mind than what they were in reality, even though some of

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them were really hard, actual life challenges. But it was

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actually moving through that one layer at a time, waking up day

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after day, and just chewing it one bite at a time, that

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eventually you get through, and you you come to a new part of

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you, and then you find these activations, or you find that

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next level of medicine, and there's no way I'd be able to

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lead and guide what I'm doing now without all of those

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challenges. It's like the quintessential hero's journey.

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But in real life, you need the adversary, you need the

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challenge, you need the dark night of the soul. You really

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need these things. And so I'm at this point in my life now where

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I am sitting with do I need those things now to cultivate

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more growth and expansion, or can I do a better job listening

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and move with more grace, more ease and more flow, and when a

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challenge does come up, invite the fear and fatigue, see what

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it has for you.

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Rev. Rose Hope: Oh, I love that concept. And I'm gonna, I'm

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gonna say this again, the thing you fear the most is the source

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of your greatest medicine. Because I think that was such a

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powerful quote that you just shared there beautiful I think

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that's really going to resonate for a lot of people that are

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listening today. I'm sure there's something that they are

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sitting with in terms of fear, right? Everybody. So what a

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beautiful invitation for all of us. Thank you. Anything else

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that's coming to mind before we kind of come into have our final

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few minutes here,

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Dr. Kevin Preston: I think I might just repeat earlier of

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stillness is highly underrated. You know, getting quiet, taking

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a pause. And I just think sometimes we need to hear that

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like you're allowed to pause. You're allowed to pause in real

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time, in challenging conversations. Most of us were

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not taught that if you're in a heated argument, a heated issue

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with somebody, in real time, you can take a breath and say, I'm

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actually just going to pause for a moment. I'm feeling a lot.

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This is really intense. Can you actually give me a minute? Or

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let's both just take a minute and breathe for a second and

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then we'll keep going. Or maybe you need a longer pause, like

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give yourself the permission for that, and then in those micro

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moments of life, take a pause. But in the big picture, how many

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times do we actually stop breathe and take an inventory of

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our life? And there's these aspects and different spiritual

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teachings too that, and I believe this is probably true

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that at the end of your life, whenever that might be, you are

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shown your full potential, and you are shown the gap as big or

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as small as it is of what you lived, of your full capacity and

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what actually happened in your life, and that we don't need to

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wait till that moment to see that, because if there's a big

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gap, that could be possibly really painful. And so again,

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I'm not saying this from a fear place. I'm saying it to be

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empowered. Maybe check in once a week, once a month. How am I how

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do I feel? Where am I at? And again, not from fear scarcity,

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but empowered steps of if I'm not where I want to be, what are

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the things, the people, the places, the steps that I can

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start taking even a little bit to start closing that gap on the

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full potential that we all have. We have a dynamic, amazing,

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illuminated blueprint with inside of us. Sometimes it just

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needs to be let out a little bit. And, you know, for that

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shining light to start to open up a bit more, and that's what

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we're going to do at the new human event.

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Rev. Rose Hope: I love this, and I love that you gave us all

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permission to be still the. Yeah, oh, it's so good, Kevin,

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it's always such a privilege to be in your presence and to hear

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your wisdom. So thank you so much for sharing all of that. So

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that being said, you know, we want to invite our audience to

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check out the new human event if they haven't already. So do you

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want to just say a few tidbits about that and what else you

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might have available? Because it's not just the new human

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event. Obviously you still work as a doctor of traditional

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Chinese medicine and and so is there anything else that we

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should know about you? If we're feeling a resonance and we're

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hearing this and we're like, oh my god, this Dr Preston is

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amazing. What do we do then

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Dr. Kevin Preston: I think, yeah, follow me on socials if

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you feel the call, that's usually where we'll be sharing

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lots of things that we have upcoming. So certainly, the new

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human this year, the theme is Interstellar, and the theme is,

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well, even the definition of Interstellar is the space in

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between stars. And so I think a lot of us have these beautiful

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Cosmic Origins and earthly elements. And and what we're

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aiming to do is create a bridge between heaven and earth, but in

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an embodied human way that we get to be messy, we get to have

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fun, we get to experience joy and challenge and everything

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else. But if we do that together, authentically in

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person, that's the vessel of energy that we've been building

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and all the preparation, I've been working on this event for

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over a year now. And so there's lots of layers to build, a safe

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container to be present in, so that all the work is almost

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done, and then we just need to step in and show up to it and

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allow those things to happen and get out of our own way. And so

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we curate and guide different experiences to really help

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people direct themselves back to them. You know, it's to invoke

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that medicine in each of us. It's not about me, it's not

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about even the other speakers. And I'm also really excited. Dr

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Zach Bush is coming back again. He was there last year.

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Rev. Rose Hope: I'm a huge fan. I'm super excited about that.

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Yeah,

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Dr. Kevin Preston: He's so amazing, so amazing to work

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with. So he's coming back. We've got a beautiful Qigong and

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meditation type teacher, Stephanie nosco, she's on the

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island in BC here, and many more layers in depth to her as well.

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We've got an amazing, soulful, intuitive, etheric singer,

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maylan Moritz, amazing, powerful voice, very angelic. And her

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colleague, Ali Pervez is coming. He's an amazing masculine

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embodiment of also that counterpart of voice and sounds.

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And my dear friend Andrea is going to be emceeing. I'll be on

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stage as well. And then we have our friends from the indigenous

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community here that we've been collaborating with. My friends,

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Laureen and Edna are going to be back. And, you know, we weave

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all these places together, both energetically, but in person,

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and, you know, very, very intentionally. And I think that

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builds something that's unique and different that you were

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speaking to earlier, that you can feel something different

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with this. And then I am going to be leading other retreats and

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events next year as well, like those smaller, deep dive ones.

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So this past year, so far, we did a retreat in Iceland with a

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small group of people.

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Rev. Rose Hope: And I was so jealous, I was like, Oh, next

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time.

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Dr. Kevin Preston: Well, so I might do another one. And these

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are things I'm sitting with. I might do another one in Iceland

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next year. I'm also looking at maybe, I won't share this one

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just yet, but it'll be possibly Portugal, or off the coast of

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Portugal, just, you know, feeling into some of these

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energetics. That'd be probably springtime, like April, and also

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just listening to the call and getting quiet and still of where

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else do I need to be, and who are the people that I need to be

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there with? And different places on the planet are calling to me

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as well. And then, yeah, I still am working in the clinic, and

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that shifts and changes all the time, but I have some courses

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coming out that I'm really excited about, of how to reach

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more people that then they don't need to see me in the clinic

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directly. And, you know, gratefully, I've got a giant

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wait list. And you know, one of those things is that so many

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things are changing on the planet, and health and medicine

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these days, and I've been listening very deeply the last

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few years of how can I be of the greatest level of service? And

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so, you know, you'll probably find me speaking on other

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stages, even outside of my own event, too. And so yeah, Dr.

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Kevin Preston on Instagram is probably one of the best places,

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and Facebook as well. And got two websites. drkevinpreston.com

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for more of the clinical side. And then we've got

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newhumanevents.com and so if you're feeling the call, we've

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still got some space for October 3 to fifth. We're going to be in

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a giant tents on a flower farm outside of Armstrong here in BC,

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and yeah, there's a lot of energy in the flow for what

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we're going to be doing there, and it'll be transformational. I

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can promise you that.

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Rev. Rose Hope: Absolutely it will be. So folks, we're going

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to have all those links in the show notes for all of you just

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below this podcast. So Dr, Kevin Preston, it's always such a joy.

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Thank you so much for taking time out of your very busy

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schedule to be with us today and to share your beautiful wisdom.

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Any final words of any quotes, any final messages coming

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through as we wrap things up today.

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Dr. Kevin Preston: Well, I'm grateful for this time and space

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because it. Also allows me to drop in with you and slow down

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and just flow and have that feeling of there's nowhere else

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that I need to be except in the present moment. And maybe the

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last thing, I was in a men's retreat with my friend Emily in

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2018 in Sedona. And you know, Sedona is powerful and beautiful

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in lots of ways, but there was a quote on the wall in that

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building, and I've shared this many times, but it's coming up,

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so I'm trusting that it said, Follow your heart's highest

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excitement. And it really landed in my system and landed in my

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bones. And so I've been doing my best since then to live that way

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and to only really create and involve myself in things that I

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feel that really deep hearts excitement, and then I know I'm

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on the right path, and my heart smiles, and I get to keep going.

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So thanks for creating this space to connect, and thanks

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everyone for tuning in.

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Rev. Rose Hope: Well, it's been great. Thank you again, so much,

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and thanks everyone for listening until next time. Take

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care.

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